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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="http://www2.sqlblog.com/utility/FeedStylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>SELECT Hints, Tips, Tricks FROM Hugo Kornelis WHERE RDBMS = 'SQL Server' : Support</title><link>http://www2.sqlblog.com/blogs/hugo_kornelis/archive/tags/Support/default.aspx</link><description>Tags: Support</description><dc:language>en</dc:language><generator>CommunityServer 2.1 SP2 (Build: 61129.1)</generator><item><title>Want a Service Pack? Ask for it!</title><link>http://www2.sqlblog.com/blogs/hugo_kornelis/archive/2008/02/01/want-a-service-pack-ask-for-it.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 20:19:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">21093a07-8b3d-42db-8cbf-3350fcbf5496:4827</guid><dc:creator>Hugo Kornelis</dc:creator><slash:comments>32</slash:comments><comments>http://www2.sqlblog.com/blogs/hugo_kornelis/comments/4827.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www2.sqlblog.com/blogs/hugo_kornelis/commentrss.aspx?PostID=4827</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN:0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="mso-ansi-language:en-us;"&gt;&lt;FONT size=3&gt;&lt;FONT face="Times New Roman"&gt;Service pack 2 for SQL Server 2005 is already 11 months old. And there is still no sign of service pack 3 on the horizon. Why is that? Has Microsoft managed to release a perfect, completely bug-free product? No, of course not – with the size and complexity of a product such as SQL Server is, that will simply never happen.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN:0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="mso-ansi-language:en-us;"&gt;&lt;FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3&gt;There have, in fact, enormous numbers of bugs been uncovered and fixed since SP2 was released. And roughly once every two months, a so-called “cumulative update package” gets released. The last one is officially called “Cumulative update package 5 for SQL Server 2005 Service Pack 2”, or simply CU5 for friends. Quite a mouthful. But if you think that &lt;I style="mso-bidi-font-style:normal;"&gt;name&lt;/I&gt; is long, &lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;A href="http://support.microsoft.com/kb/943656/"&gt;&lt;FONT face="Times New Roman" color=#800080 size=3&gt;check out&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/A&gt;&lt;FONT size=3&gt;&lt;FONT face="Times New Roman"&gt; the list of bugs that CU5 fixes!&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN:0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="mso-ansi-language:en-us;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN:0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="mso-ansi-language:en-us;"&gt;&lt;FONT size=3&gt;&lt;FONT face="Times New Roman"&gt;I think that it’s great that Microsoft now releases these cumulative update packages at regular intervals. I see them as a good addition that nicely fits in between hot-fixes for quick fixes with limited testing, only for those needing it, on one side, and fully tested service packs that are released once or at most twice per year on the other side.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN:0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="mso-ansi-language:en-us;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN:0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="mso-ansi-language:en-gb;"&gt;&lt;FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3&gt;Given the long list of bugs fixed in CU5, should everyone be recommended to install it, just as if it were a service pack? Well, no. Microsoft themselves advise against this. In fact, you can’t even just download and install the package; you have to “&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;COLOR:red;FONT-FAMILY:arial;mso-ansi-language:en-gb;"&gt;submit a request to Microsoft Online Customer Services to obtain the cumulative update package&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN style="mso-ansi-language:en-gb;"&gt;&lt;FONT size=3&gt;&lt;FONT face="Times New Roman"&gt;”. This quote comes directly from the Knowledge Base article for CU5, as come these further disclaimers:&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN:0cm 0cm 0pt;TEXT-INDENT:35.4pt;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="mso-ansi-language:en-gb;"&gt;&lt;FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3&gt;“&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;COLOR:red;FONT-FAMILY:arial;mso-ansi-language:en-gb;"&gt;it is intended to correct only the problems that are described in this article. Apply it only to systems that are experiencing these specific problems&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN style="mso-ansi-language:en-gb;"&gt;&lt;FONT size=3&gt;&lt;FONT face="Times New Roman"&gt;”&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN:0cm 0cm 0pt;TEXT-INDENT:35.4pt;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="mso-ansi-language:en-gb;"&gt;&lt;FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3&gt;“&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;COLOR:red;FONT-FAMILY:arial;mso-ansi-language:en-gb;"&gt;if you are not severely affected by any of these problems, we recommend that you wait for the next SQL Server 2005 service pack that contains the hotfixes in this cumulative update package&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN style="mso-ansi-language:en-gb;"&gt;&lt;FONT size=3&gt;&lt;FONT face="Times New Roman"&gt;”&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN:0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="mso-ansi-language:en-gb;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN:0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="mso-ansi-language:en-gb;"&gt;&lt;FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3&gt;These quotes, which have been in the same or a similar form in all cumulative updates, make it pretty clear that I should wait for the next service pack. So we waited. And waited. And waited some more. And then, some MVP's got impatient and suggested (in the MVP newsgroup) to release SP3 as soon as possible. The answer surprised me – apparently, Microsoft has no plans yet to release a new service pack, because not enough customers have asked for it. (MS: “&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN style="FONT-SIZE:11pt;COLOR:red;FONT-FAMILY:'Comic Sans MS';mso-ansi-language:en-gb;"&gt;Good, but honestly, at least our management says, we're not getting feedback requesting SP3 from enough customers to require it&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN style="mso-ansi-language:en-gb;"&gt;&lt;FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3&gt;” – Me: “&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN style="FONT-SIZE:11pt;FONT-FAMILY:'Comic Sans MS';mso-ansi-language:en-gb;"&gt;Is that reason under NDA? Because if it's not, I can post a blog entry supporting people to write MS management asking for SP3&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN style="mso-ansi-language:en-gb;"&gt;&lt;FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3&gt;” – MS: “&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN style="FONT-SIZE:11pt;COLOR:red;FONT-FAMILY:'Comic Sans MS';mso-ansi-language:en-gb;"&gt;As far as I know that's a public response&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN style="mso-ansi-language:en-gb;"&gt;&lt;FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3&gt;”). So, the KB article says to wait, all customers do as asked and then Microsoft concludes that nobody wants a service pack because nobody asks for it? And I misunderstood when I thought that “&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;COLOR:red;FONT-FAMILY:arial;mso-ansi-language:en-gb;"&gt;any hotfix that is provided in a SQL Server service pack is included in the next SQL Server service pack&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN style="mso-ansi-language:en-gb;"&gt;&lt;FONT size=3&gt;&lt;FONT face="Times New Roman"&gt;” implies that there will actually &lt;I style="mso-bidi-font-style:normal;"&gt;be&lt;/I&gt; a next service pack. Apparently, my graps of the English language is not as good as I’d like to believe…&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN:0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="mso-ansi-language:en-gb;"&gt;&lt;FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3&gt;Anyway, I now understand that Microsoft will only release a new service pack if enough people ask for it. So I’ve decided to make sure that they get the message. I’ve gone to Connect and filed a &lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;A class="" href="http://connect.microsoft.com/SQLServer/feedback/ViewFeedback.aspx?FeedbackID=326575"&gt;&lt;FONT face="Times New Roman" color=#0000ff size=3&gt;suggestion to release Service Pack for SQL Server 2005, including all changes up to and including CU5&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/A&gt;&lt;FONT size=3&gt;&lt;FONT face="Times New Roman"&gt;.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN:0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="mso-ansi-language:en-gb;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN:0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="mso-ansi-language:en-gb;"&gt;&lt;FONT size=3&gt;&lt;FONT face="Times New Roman"&gt;If you read this, and you agree with me that Service Pack 3 for SQL Server 2005 is overdue, you now know what to do – log in to Connect and vote 5 for my suggestion. And if you think that I’m losing my marbles and that there should be no Service Pack 3, then you should log in to Connect and vote 1. In short: make yourself heard!&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN:0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="mso-ansi-language:en-gb;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN:0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="mso-ansi-language:en-gb;"&gt;&lt;FONT size=3&gt;&lt;FONT face="Times New Roman"&gt;Microsoft will not release service pack 3 because insufficient customer are asking for it? Well, I’m asking – can we have service pack 3, please? Pretty please? Pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty please????&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
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